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		<title>Obama Will Lower Taxes; $250K = Rich</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've gotten into a few debates recently with friends who oppose Obama's tax plan for two main reasons: (1) they feel that raising the capital gains tax will hurt the national economy by discouraging investment and removing liquidity from the market; and (2) taxes are going up for those households making over $250,000 per year. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_288" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://misgatos.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/taxplans.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-288" title="Tax Plans" src="http://misgatos.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/taxplans.gif" alt="Tax plans drawn to scale." width="500" height="375" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tax plans drawn to scale.</p></div>
<p>I've gotten into a few debates recently with friends who oppose Obama's tax plan for two main reasons: (1) they feel that raising the capital gains tax will hurt the national economy by discouraging investment and removing liquidity from the market; and (2) taxes are going up for those households making over $250,000 per year. That's not much money, they argue -- a good chunk of my friends have advanced degrees (with associated debt) and live in S.F. and NYC. If they want to even dream of owning their own apartment in a decent neighborhood, making that kind of money is a necessity.</p>
<p>If you agree with point number two, first take a <a href="http://chartjunk.karmanaut.com/taxplans/">look at the chart</a> above, which shows how the tax plans of McCain and Obama will directly <a href="http://chartjunk.karmanaut.com/taxplans/">impact different segments of the population</a>.*</p>
<p>Clear? Good. Welcome back. Next, Daniel Gross takes apart the second argument in his Slate article "<em><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2198806/">The deluded Obama critics who think $250,000 is a middle-class salary</a></em>."</p>
<blockquote><p>Barack Obama's <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121867201724238901.html" target="_blank">tax plan</a>, . . . promises to improve the nation's fiscal standing by scaling back tax cuts for people making more than $250,000. Since then, the business pundit class has been griping that people who make $250,000 a year aren't really wealthy, especially if they live in and around New York; San Francisco; or Washington, D.C. . . . On Wednesday afternoon, CNBC's <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/26423893" target="_blank">unscientific online poll</a> found that (surprise!) only 35 percent of respondents believed an income of $250,000 qualified a household for elite rich status.</p>
<p>I have two pieces of bad news for the over-$250,000 crowd. First, the reversal of some of the temporary Bush tax cuts is probably inevitable, given the Republican fiscal clown show of the past eight years. Second, I regret to inform you that you are indeed rich. . . . [I]ncome data can surely tell us something. And they tell us that $250,000 puts you in pretty fancy company. The Census Bureau earlier this week <a href="http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf" target="_blank">reported</a> that the median household income was $50,223 in 2007—up slightly from the last year but still below the 1999 peak. So a household that earned $250,000 made five times the median. In fact, as this <a href="http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/032008/hhinc/new06_000.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#800080;">chart</span></a> shows, only 2.245 million U.S. households, the top 1.9 percent, had income greater than $250,000 in 2007. (About 20 percent of households make more than $100,000.)</p>
<p>In dealing with aggregate nationwide numbers, we should of course take account of the <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/26408567" target="_blank">significant differences in the cost of living from state to state</a>. . . . But even in wealthy states, $250,000 ain't bad—it's nearly four times the median income in wealthy states like Maryland and Connecticut. And even if you look at the wealthiest <a href="http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=d&amp;-context=dt&amp;-ds_name=ACS_2007_1YR_G00_&amp;-mt_name=ACS_2007_1YR_G2000_B19013&amp;-CONTEXT=dt&amp;-tree_id=307&amp;-geo_id=31000US10140&amp;-geo_id=31000US10180&amp;-geo_id=31000US10300&amp;-geo_id=31000US10380&amp;-geo_id=31000" target="_blank">metropolitan areas</a>—Washington, D.C. ($83,200); San Francisco ($73,851); Boston ($68,142); and New York ($61,554)—$250,000 a year dwarfs the median income.</p></blockquote>
<p>Still feel that $250,000 isn't much money? Let me know why -- I'd love to discuss.</p>
<p>[Update -- According to <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/PUBS/oss/oss2/papers/wgt95.pdf">this 1997 paper put out by the Fed [pdf]</a>, 1% of the population owns 82% of the stock market.]</p>
<p>* Looking at tax policy alone can be misleading, especially because of the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16herbert.html?ex=1379304000&amp;en=002e12e7e04e2233&amp;ei=5124&amp;partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink">radical differences in proposed health care plans</a>.</p>
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